Survey shows how Alviverde managed to win the same number of trophies as Fla in recent years, with a much cheaper squad
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Flamengo lost another one to Palmeiras?! Yes, and this time, outside the fields. The dispute was in the transfer market, but not involving a specific player. According to a survey carried out by the Torcedores.com portal, the São Paulo team has the best strategy when it comes to buying, selling, lending and borrowing athletes. Previously, this position belonged to Mengão.
The portal took into account the last five seasons, making a comparison between the number of awards from Brazilian clubs and how much they invested to achieve the squads they have. From 2019 to now, Flamengo and Palmeiras have won the main national and continental cups, but Alviverde had to spend less to do so.
While the São Paulo club spent 83.58 million euros (R$451.3 million, at the current price) in signings, the rubro-negro disbursed almost double this amount: 160.75 million euros (R$ 1.15 million). In this way, Flamengo spent around 213.2 thousand euros (R$1.15 million) per point won in the period, while each point for Palmeiras cost 117.2 thousand euros (R$632.8 thousand).
< Therefore, on the field, Abel Ferreira's team was 1.9 times cheaper and ended up winning the same titles — the Rio team only has one more Super Cup than Palmeiras.Some clubs spent less than Palmeiras in terms of points won in the period — like Atlético-MG, Athletico, São Paulo and Corinthians, for example —, but they didn't come close to the number of cups won by alviverde. This reason makes Verdão the team that hires the best in the country.
In addition to the titles won, Palmeiras also stands out in the resale power of its players. This was the case with the transfers of Danilo to Nottingham Forest, Matías Viña to Roma and Arthur to Zenit, which generated a total of R$256 million for the São Paulo club's coffers, with a profit of R$25.2 million.
In total, the Alviverde team raised 74.2 million euros (around R$401 million) just from the sales of players who arrived and left between 2019 and 2023. In general terms, Palmeiras managed to earn 1.5 times more than Flamengo with the sales of its players, spending almost twice less than the red-black team.
The club has a different point of view from the coach
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In an interview given after the defeat of Flamengoto Peñarol, 1-0, coach Tite was direct in responding to the boos received by the fans. The statement, marked by a frank tone, exposed the coach's pragmatic vision in relation to demanding fans and the pressure for results. “I respect the fans’ feelings. Of course I feel that (the boos), I'm human”, said Tite, recognizing the fans' frustration in the face of the setback.
Tite's speech reveals that he understands the role of fans as a fundamental part in the context of a club, especially in a team of great expression like Flamengo. By mentioning that the boos affect him as a human being, the coach demonstrates empathy, but does not fail to highlight that the only way to reverse this situation is with achievements on the field. “It can only be reversed in one way”, pointed out the coach.
THE MISTAKE THAT COSTED EXTREMELY DEARLYThe response reflects the experience of Titein dealing with pressure who follows the command of great teams in Brazilian football. With successful spells at clubs such as Corinthians, Grêmio and the Brazilian national team itself, the coach has a track record that puts him in a position to understand, perhaps like few others, the relationship between performance on the field and fans' expectations. For him, this connection is clear: “Do you know how to win fans? Do you know how I won over the fans of the other clubs I played for? Win an important title”, he declared.
The phrase highlights the centrality of titles in football, especially in mass clubs like Flamengo. In Brazil, the culture of results is intense, and Tite recognizes that fans have a limited tolerance for negative results. Winning titles, for him, is the key to gaining the support of the fans, and anything other than that results in discontent: “If not, bye.”
This last part of Tite's speech summarizes the characteristic impatience of demanding fans like Flamengo. The coach makes it clear that, without obtaining relevant trophies, the relationship with the fans deteriorates quickly. The pressure is constant and is part of the daily life of those who take on the leadership of top teams. Tite seems, however, to be aware of this scenario and how it needs to be faced.
The club has its greatest moment of inconstancy
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Tite's statement came after a delicate moment for Flamengo. The defeat to Peñarol, at home, in a group stage match of the Copa Libertadores, raised alarm bells for fans and the coaching staff. Flamengo had high expectations for the season, especially after major reinforcements and the arrival of Tite, a coach with wide recognition on the national and international scene.
The pressure on Flamengo is nothing new. The club, which has one of the biggest fans in the world, is known for its high expectations for titles. The expensive squad, made up of renowned players, also increases this demand. Each stumble is widely covered by the media and amplifies the dissatisfaction of part of the fans, who demand immediate results.
CAN IT GO BAD AT THE MOMENT?The Copa Libertadores, in particular, has a important meaning for Flamengo and its fans. The continental tournament is seen as one of the club's main objectives each season. Any result other than victory can generate dissatisfaction and pressure on the technical committee, as occurred after the setback against Peñarol.
In this context, Tite's speech not only recognizes the fans' dissatisfaction, but also is realistic in relation to what is expected from a club like Flamengo. The demand for titles is part of the package when taking over a club of this size, and the coach seems to be aware of this when he points out that he will only be able to win the support of the fans with significant victories.
Edmundo spoke about his admiration for younger and irreverent players
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Edmundo, a former player known for his talent and explosive temperament on the pitch, analyzed current football, highlighting athletes who, in his view, have characteristics similar to his, whether in technique or personality. In an interview with the Só Se For Agora podcast, the former striker commented on players who most catch his attention, mentioning names like Gabigol, from Flamengo , and Dudu, from Palmeiras.
During the interview, Edmundo spoke about his admiration for younger and irreverent players. One of the names mentioned was John Kennedy, from Fluminense, champion in 2022. However, the former player was categorical in stating that, although he admires the young man's talent and personality, he believes that his own technique was superior. Another name that caught his attention was Estêvão, a natural dribbler, something that Edmundo himself highlighted as one of his great qualities on the field.
"I'm enchanted by some players, like John Kennedy, for their personality, but technically I was better than him. Estêvão is another, a great dribbler, and I considered myself a natural dribbler", commented the former player.
PRAISE FOR GABIGOL AND DUDU
Among the most experienced players, the former striker mentioned Dudu, from Palmeiras, and Gabigol, from Mais Querido. Edmundo made a point of praising the strong personality and technical quality of both, although he highlighted that each one has a different playing style.
"Dudu is one of the players I like to watch. He plays Palmeiras' number 7, which makes me identify a little with him. Gabigol, from Mengão, is an athlete with a strong personality, very confident in himself, although he has a different style than me, he did some things on the field. which I also did, perhaps even more intensely", commented Edmundo, with good humor.
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