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19 Nov 2024 | 11:53 |
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O debate between the candidates for the presidency of Flamengo, held last Monday (18), was marked by confrontations and accusations. One of the most controversial topics was the possibility of the club adopting the Football Anonymous Society (SAF) model in the future. The discussion generated an exchange of barbs between Luiz Eduardo Baptista (Bap) and Rodrigo Dunshee, who disagreed on who would have raised this proposal in the club's councils: Dunshee's current group and that of President Rodolfo Landimor Bap's allies.
Accusations about the SAF < /b>
During the debate, Dunshee accused people linked to Bap's group of presenting a proposal to transform Flamengo into SAF, mentioning the report from the company Win The Game, of which Cláudio Pracownik, Bap's supporter, is part. According to Dunshee, the report even included a “high commission” associated with the possible sale of the club.
Bap refuted the accusations, stating that the study was commissioned by the club's board and was not a autonomous initiative of the company. He also reiterated this defense in demonstrations on social media.
Despite mutual accusations, both candidates declared that they were against the transformation of Flamengo into SAF, while at the same time that they accused their opponent of being insincere on the issue.
Debate on management and principles
Bap was also asked about having "abandoned" the current administration and adjusted his speech due to not having the support of President Landim. In response, he made an analogy saying that he “got on the wrong train” and criticized the administration for, according to him, moving away from fundamental principles for the club.
Check out the debate on SAF in full
Question from Rodrigo Dunshee
“Bap, You joined the Bandeira de Mello management and soon after left in a fight. He was also with us and he also fought with us. And now he comes with the list of people who were there in 2015-2018 and didn't win anything, and the club is still on the sidelines. There are people with you who tried to buy Flamengo, 49% of Flamengo, earning a high commission to do a SAF. These people withdrew from the stadium vote. So, I ask the following: how can you, teaming up with people who didn't win anything from 2015 to 2018, be able to make Flamengo better? What is the organizational chart and how will these people do it? What position will they occupy?”
Response from Bap
“When you catch the wrong train, the sooner you get back, the better. If you don't believe in the principles, you better just walk away. This has nothing to do with trains, it has to do with characterand principles. What I believedin 12, 15, 18 and 21 remain absolutely intact. These principles are what I believe for Flamengo. You were the ones who went against the principles. People with me have believed this forever. It is for no other reason that 15 of the vice-presidents from these last administrations are with me. When I look at the group, I have no doubt about what good things could happen for Flamengo's future. Another lie that you are talking about, that people with me tried to sell the club. The person who hired these people to give their opinion, and they gave their opinion, was the president who is with you. The person who discussed the SAF issue was the president. You try to blame it on me and other people. Anyone at the club knows this perfectly well.
Dunshee replica
“You are in a winning group, until six months ago you were askingvery strongly for the president to support you, you wanted to be the candidate of the situation. the. And, suddenly, the principles that guide our management are not adequate, but they are the ones that guided it from the beginning to the end. I'm very comfortable with the team I have and the truth is that president Landim didn't hire anyone, he received a proposal to buy Flamengo for 49%, where one of the people The partner of this company was Claudio Pracownik and you know it. I already talked about this, there are documents that this was done. You were the one who led SAF to Flamengo, with lectures, you talked about SAF in Flamengo all the time. My trajectory has always been against SAF, against selling Flamengo. Flamengo belongs to the Nation, it cannot be left in the hands of one owner.”
Bap's rejoinder
“It's an outright lie that I begged for something at Flamengo. If there's anyone who begged and told everyone that you were already the president's candidate, it's you. Those at the club know this and know you, your trajectory, and know the attitudes of the president, who says one thing and does another. They are lies, lies and lies. When we look at who is on this side, they are the right people. I didn't discuss SAF, there are several videos and records of the president defending SAF, and you were silent. This is absolutely not true. And we are going to show that we are going to play our stadium without SAF and with sports performances.”
< b>Publication of documents and denial of Pracownik
During the debate, Dunshee released documents which, according to him, would prove that the SAF proposal was presented by Cláudio Pracownik. The material, published on the official profile of his candidacy, made reference to the sales model developed by Win The Game.
Pracownik, in turn, denied the accusations in social networks. He stated that the report was requested by Flamengo's board and did not represent an independent proposal on his part, in addition to criticizing Dunshee's statements during the debate.
“The title of the contract explains everything (last image in the post): ASSISTANCE CONTRACT! It's a shame that Rodrigo Dunshee, even though he's a lawyer, doesn't know how to read or understand its nature! Who would you be advising? To Flamengo! Why? Because they asked me for this proposal and that was the reason for my company’s existence! Just like that! Very different from what, out of ignorance or bad faith, he mistakes as an offer to buy the club! He lies as much as he breathes, this guy... poor Flamengo, if he had been in charge of the Club, I'm glad that won't happen!!!”
Context
The SAF theme has generated controversies in Flamengo, especially due to the fear of part of the fans and sectors of the club regarding the loss of autonomy and identity. The discussion promises to continue to be one of the highlights of the red-black electoral campaign.
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